直觉被严重高估
直觉被严重高估了 2015 年 6 月 11 日
Intuition Is Vastly Overrated June 11, 2015
西蒙·布鲁纳:我们人类,到底有没有能力做好投资?
Simon Brunner: Are we, as human beings, at all cut out to make good investments?
迈克尔·莫布森:这是投资领域最令人沮丧的一组数据:过去十年间,标普 500 指数上涨了 7.7%,而普通投资者的回报率却只有 5.3%。全球所有市场的数字都差不多。这是为什么?因为我们常常无法保持冷静头脑,追涨杀跌。
Michael Mauboussin: Here is the most disheartening statistic in the world of investment: Over the past ten years, the S&P 500 has gone up by 7.7 percent, while the average investor has seen a return of only 5.3 percent. The figures are similar in all of the world's markets. Why is that the case? We often fail to keep a cool head; we buy high and sell low.
大多数投资者都意识到这种危险,但要改变他们的行为却异常困难。为什么?
Most investors are conscious of this danger, but it is incredibly difficult for them to change their behavior. Why?
我们想要更多好的,少一些坏的。我们看到身边许多人在股市里赚了大钱,于是也想参与其中。但市场常常以反直觉的方式运行——在其他条件不变的情况下,市场上涨时预期回报下降,下跌时预期回报反而上升。另一个过于常见的人性现象是渴望融入群体,这能给我们带来安全感。然而在投资领域,这未必是件好事。
We want more of the good and less of the bad. We see that people around us are making a lot of money in the stock market, and we want to be part of that. But markets frequently behave in counterintuitive ways. When they go up, the expected return goes down, and when they fall, the expected return goes up, all things being equal. Another all-too human phenomenon is a desire to be part of the group, which gives us a sense of security. In the context of investments, however, that isn't necessarily a good thing.
沃伦·巴菲特是怎么说的?“别人恐惧时你要贪婪,别人贪婪时你要恐惧。”这话说起来容易,做起来难。
How did Warren Buffett put it? "You want to be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy." It's easy to say, but hard to put into practice.
这对个人投资者意味着什么?
What does this mean for private investors?
指数基金对于那些不想花大量时间决定把钱投到哪去的人来说,是个不错的选择。它们代表整个市场或某个行业,并且通常高度分散化。其他人则可以庆幸,市场并不总是反映现实——尤其是在极端情况下——而这种情况恰恰为成功的投资提供了机会。以 2009 年第一季度为例,当时投资者因担心最坏的情况而压低价格。
Index funds are a good choice for those who prefer not to spend a lot of time deciding where to put their savings. They represent an entire market or industry, and they are normally broadly diversified. Everyone else can be happy that markets don't always reflect reality, particularly in extreme situations – and such situations provide opportunities for successful investments. Take the first quarter of 2009, for example, when prices were depressed as investors feared the worst.
事后看这很清楚,但股市有句常被引用的铁律:“永远不要去接一把落下来的刀。”
That's clear in retrospect, but there's an oft-cited stock market rule: "Never try to catch a falling knife."
当然,光有价格下跌还不够,那或许仅仅是价格回调而已。但在 2009 年,很明显某些公司被低估了。
Of course, it's not enough for prices to be going down, since that might be merely a matter of a price correction. But it was quite apparent in 2009 that certain companies were undervalued.
许多观察者都指出了这一点——包括我在内。
Numerous observers pointed that out – including me.
如果我作为个人投资者想要主动管理自己的资产,应该怎么做?
If I want to actively manage my assets as a private investor, how should I go about it?
如果你要自己管钱,我的建议是:第一步,分析一支股票的价格。未来预期如何——未来几年的收入、经营利润和投资需求大概是多少?
If you want to manage your money yourself, I would suggest the following: First, analyze a stock's price. What are the expectations for the future – the likely revenues, operating profits and investment requirements for the coming years?
那然后呢?
And then what?
第二,判断这家公司未来在战略和财务上的表现,是可能超出预期还是不及预期。第三,买入或卖出。这三个步骤需要投入大量的时间和精力。要做好这件事,你必须得有动力。不过,所需的工具是现成的。
Second, find out whether the company is likely to do better or worse than expected, strategically and financially. Third, buy or sell. These three steps take a great deal of time and effort. To do this well, you have to be motivated. But the necessary tools are available.
您在试图识别被低估的股票时,主要关注哪些关键指标?
What key figures do you look at when trying to identify stocks with low expectations?
有几个指标可以衡量;低市净率或低市盈率就是很好的参考指标。
There are several; a low price/book value or price-earnings ratio are good indicators.
从历史上看,这类股票通常能带来高回报,至少从长期来看是这样。
Historically, such stocks tend to yield a high return, at least over the long term.
当我投资时,我与数百万想法相似的投资者同场竞技。因此,证券的价格反映了无数人的看法……
When I invest my money, I'm competing with millions of other investors who are thinking in similar terms. So the price of a security reflects the opinion of countless people ...
……但这并不意味着他们是对的!
...Which doesn't mean that they're right!
那么我能做得更好吗?
So I can do better?
在某些情况下,是的。但要做得更好,你必须理解价格中已经包含的市场预期。这样你才能判断市场是过于乐观还是过于悲观。
Under certain circumstances, yes. But to do better, you have to understand the expectations that are built into the price of a security. Then you can judge whether the market is too optimistic or too pessimistic.
你是否遵循自己定下的规则?
Do you follow your own rules?
我的投资组合广泛分散在多个“廉价”基金上,也就是管理费很低的基金。我极少进行主动交易。
I have a broadly diversified portfolio with a number of "cheap" funds, funds with low management fees. I very rarely engage in active trading.
如果最佳策略是主要投资指数基金和长期投资,那我们真的还需要银行吗?
If it's best to invest mainly in index funds and long-term investments, do we really need a bank anymore?
与银行合作对大多数人来说仍然非常有益:你如何找到合适的基金?又如何校准自己的(投资)节奏?
Working with a bank can still be very beneficial for most people: How do you find the right funds? How do you calibrate your
分散化?以及最终,你如何买入和卖出?我认为我们大多数人——包括我在内
diversification? And ultimately, how do you buy and sell? I think most of us – including me
– 没有时间或兴趣每天管理投资组合。那么你必须问问自己,谁能在这方面帮你。一位值得信赖的银行家,在这极其敏感的任务中可能至关重要。
– don't have the time or interest to manage a portfolio on a daily basis. Then you have to ask yourself who can help you with that. A trusted banker can be essential in this very sensitive task.
我理解得对吗:投资是不是就是在对抗那些在进化过程中对我们很有用的各种人性冲动?毕竟,如果那些冲动没有益处,我们也不会拥有它们。
Am I understanding you correctly: Is investing about combating a variety of human impulses that have served us well in the course of evolution? After all, if those impulses weren't beneficial, we wouldn't have them.
确实如此——但它们对投资没什么帮助。就拿乐观来说吧。
Exactly – but they aren't helpful for making investments. Take optimism, for example.
大多数创业者迟早会放弃自己的事业。但他们天生怀有积极心态,足以将这一事实抛诸脑后——否则,他们很可能永远不会创办公司。然而在投资界,乐观主义是危险的;任何相关信息都不能忽略。换句话说,投资并非我们的本能,我们必须清醒认识到这一点。唯有如此,我们才能采取恰当的行动。
Sooner or later, most entrepreneurs give up their business. But they have a fundamentally positive attitude that allows them to put that fact out of their minds – otherwise they'd never start a company, in all likelihood. In the investment world, however, optimism can be dangerous; you mustn't ignore any relevant information. In other words, investing doesn't come naturally to us, and we need to be conscious of that fact. Then we can act appropriately.
经济学家说,人类始终在追求自身利益最大化。
Economists say that we as human beings always seek to maximize our self-interest.
他们说得对吗?
Are they right?
作为一种规范性理论,这种对人性的看法是准确的。在探讨我们应该如何行事时,审视某一特定行为的预期收益是合理的。
As a normative theory, this view of humanity is accurate. When looking at how we should behave, it makes sense to look at a specific action's expected benefit.
而在现实生活中呢?
And in real life?
我们的行为确实不符合常理。一个例子是人们对亏损的极度厌恶。对于损失金钱的恐惧,大约是对赚钱喜悦的两倍。从进化角度看这说得通——如果你的食物供给不稳定,再失去一点食物就可能带来灾难性后果。但用这个角度看投资可能并不正确。人们持有某只证券时间过长,是因为不愿承受亏损;或者过早卖掉一只盈利的股票。另一个例子是“庄家钱效应”。人们走进赌场后,会保持两堆分开的筹码,一堆是他们带来的钱,另一堆是赢来的钱或“庄家钱”。他们始终盯着自己带来的那堆——但把两堆分开对游戏本身毫无益处。一堆大的总比两堆小的好。
Our behavior doesn't really correspond to expectations. One example is our aversion to losses. People are roughly twice as fearful of losing money as they are happy about making a profit. This makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. If your food situation is precarious, any further loss of food may have disastrous consequences. But this may not be the right way to look at investments. People hold on to a security too long because they don't want to take a loss, or they sell a profitable stock too quickly. Another example is the "house money effect." People will go into a casino and keep two separate piles of chips, one with the money they brought with them and the other with their winnings or "house money." They continually keep an eye on the money they brought – but keeping the two piles separate provides no advantage in the game. A large pile is better than a small one.
你最近那本书是关于运气和技能的。那运气到底是什么呢?
Your most recent book is about luck and skill. Just what is luck?
我最喜欢那个简单的定义:能力关乎你能掌控的事,而运气则关乎你无法掌控的事。
I like the simple definition best: Skill involves things that are within your control, while luck involves things that are out of your control.
运气的作用可大可小,具体取决于具体任务。我们把这两个概念放在一个连续谱上,运气在左端,技能在右端。投资往往偏向左端。
Luck can play a larger or smaller role, depending on the specific task. We placed these two concepts on a continuum, with luck at the left and skill at the right. Investing tends to be on the left side.
那么投资就是靠运气?
So investments are a matter of luck?
很大程度上是的。要理解这一点,关键是要区分绝对水平和相对水平。从绝对水平看,投资的技能水准已经非常高。我们拥有强大的计算能力、海量的信息,还能依赖复杂的投资理论。但相比之下,从相对水平看,普通投资者与顶尖投资者之间的差距已不再巨大。今天,几乎任何人都能像专业人士一样进行投资。这就是所谓的“技能悖论”——技能水准极高,而且分布均匀。在这种情况下,运气就扮演了重要角色。
To a great extent, yes. To understand this, it is important to distinguish between absolute and relative skill. The level of absolute skill is very high when it comes to investments. We have access to considerable computing power and a great deal of information, and we can rely on sophisticated theories of investment. Looking at relative skill, in contrast, it is clear that there is no longer a huge difference between the average investor and the very best. Today, anyone can make investments almost as a professional would. This is called the "paradox of skill." Skill is at a very high level, and it is evenly distributed. In this situation, luck plays an important role.
这对投资意味着什么?
What does that mean for investments?
纪律、多元化以及长期视角,对于减少运气的作用来说极为重要。
Discipline, diversification and a long-term approach are very important for reducing the role of luck.
非专业人士至少也会提到直觉的作用,把直觉视为介于运气与技能之间的一个因素。直觉有多重要?
Nonprofessionals, at least, also point to the role of intuition as a factor that lies somewhere between luck and skill. How important is intuition?
这个问题很难回答。我个人的看法是,直觉被严重高估了。如果你对某个领域非常熟悉,而且该领域总是以稳定和线性的方式运作,那么直觉或许有帮助。以国际象棋为例:如果被要求分析一个棋局,国际象棋大师能相对较快地告诉你哪一方占据优势,并指出一步好的后续走法。大师们分析过数百万局对弈,棋盘始终是同一尺寸,棋子始终按相同规则移动。但如果局势不稳定且是非线性的——正如
That's a difficult question. My personal view is that intuition is vastly overrated. If you are very familiar with a certain area and that area always behaves in a consistent and linear fashion, then intuition might be helpful. Take chess, for example: Asked to analyze a board, a grandmaster will be able to tell you relatively quickly which player has the advantage and point out a good next move. Grandmasters have analyzed millions of games, the board is always the same size and the pieces always move in the same patterns. If the situation is unstable and non-linear, however – as is
生活中的常态是——直觉往往毫无用处。
usually the case in life – intuition isn't very helpful at all.
但许多伟大的想法都源于灵光一现的瞬间!
But many great ideas have been the result of spontaneous inspiration!
也许确实有人在洗澡时想出了一个价值 100 亿美元的点子。但更多人在早上穿衣服时冒出的念头,最终都毫无结果。绝大多数价值 100 亿美元的点子,绝对不是从洗澡开始的。
Perhaps someone has actually come up with a 10-billion-dollar idea while taking a shower. But far more people have had an idea while getting dressed in the morning that ultimately went nowhere. Most 10-billion-dollar ideas definitely did not originate in the shower.
我们来聊聊体育,你的另一大爱好。
Let's talk about sports, your other passion.
你说运气在冰球中的作用远比足球中大得多。
You say that luck plays a much more important role in ice hockey than in soccer.
在解释之前,先提一句:我是个铁杆冰球迷,也喜欢打冰球。不过冰球运动员触球的机会比足球运动员触球少得多。北美 NHL 各队在积分榜上的差距,也比英格兰超级联赛顶级俱乐部之间的差距小。NHL 同样呈现出一种“技能悖论”。但到了足球世界杯,情况就不一样了——比赛场次少得多,运气的作用也更重要。
Before I explain, let me mention that I'm a big hockey fan, and I also like to play. But hockey players touch the puck much less than soccer players do the ball. And there is less of a gap in the standings between the hockey teams in North America's NHL than between the top clubs in England's Premier League. The NHL, too, is characterized by a "paradox of skill." When it comes to the soccer World Cup, however, the situation is different – there are far fewer matches, and luck plays a more important role.
你还研究过伟大网球运动员的职业生涯。罗杰·费德勒还能再赢得一个大满贯冠军吗?
You've also examined the careers of great tennis players. Is Roger Federer going to win another Grand Slam title?
我认为费德勒是有史以来最伟大的网球选手,数据也支持这一观点。
I believe that Federer is the best tennis player of all time, and the data backs me up.
17 座大满贯冠军头衔是一项非凡成就,而且由于诸多原因,我怀疑今后很难再有其他男选手能追平这一纪录。罗杰在年过三十后仍赢得了温布尔登——一项在快速草地球场上进行的赛事。尽管如此,我还是认为他不太可能再赢得一个大满贯冠军了。
Seventeen Grand Slam titles is an incredible accomplishment, and I doubt that another man will ever be able to match that record, for various reasons. Roger won Wimbledon – a tournament played on a fast surface – after turning 30. All the same, I think it's unlikely that he's going to win another Grand Slam title.
Why?
Why?
他今年 34 岁。年纪大了的麻烦在于,你整个系统都会慢下来。
He's 34 years old. The problem with getting older is that your entire system slows down.
你的手眼协调能力、肌肉等,在这个层面上会带来很大差异,尤其是在技巧起重要作用的网球项目中。他的身体已经跟不上了。
Your hand-eye coordination, your muscles, and so on. At that level this makes a big difference, especially in tennis, where skill plays a major role. His body is no longer up to it.
你是职业决策者。那你在日常生活中怎么做决策?你怎么选度假目的地、选餐厅、选早上穿哪件衬衫?
You're a professional decision maker. How do you make decisions in your day-to-day life? How do you choose a vacation destination, a restaurant, the shirt to put on in the morning?
这很简单:我听我太太的。不开玩笑,根据可能的后果来排定决策的优先顺序,这非常有帮助。
That's easy: I do as my wife says. All kidding aside, it's incredibly helpful to prioritize decisions based on their possible consequences.
在咖啡店里,我可不想花几个小时纠结于焦糖可可碎星冰乐还是棉花糖口味之间。我会随便点一杯,如果不喜欢,下次换另一杯就是了。从更大的角度看,就连买哪辆车这样的决定,其实都不算非常重要。从这个视角看,我们一生中真正重要的岔路口寥寥无几。我想到了婚姻或者买房这类选择。这类决策我会花很多时间。其他所有的决定,我的建议是:别陷进细节里。
At a coffee shop, I don't want to spend hours deciding between a Frappuccino Caramel Cocoa Cluster and a Cotton Candy. I'll order one or the other, and if I don't like it I'll opt for the other one the next time. In the greater scheme of things, even decisions about which car to buy aren't really very important. If you look at it from that perspective, we encounter only a handful of truly important forks in the road over the course of our lives. I'm thinking of marriage or the purchase of a home. I spend a lot of time making those kinds of decisions. For all of the others, my recommendation is this: Don't get caught up in the details.
你有五个孩子。这是不是经过深思熟虑的?
You have five children. Was that a conscious decision?
好吧,被你逮到了!那是一个我们没完全想清楚的大决定。我们一直想要很多孩子,但到了最后两三个,我太太的热情比我高多了。
Okay, you've caught me there! That was a big decision that we hadn't entirely thought through. We always wanted to have a lot of children, but when it came to the last two or three, my wife was more enthusiastic than I was.
最后,你人生中运气有多好?
Finally, how much luck have you had in your life?
非常多。我遇到了很多给了我大量支持的人。我为了找到第一份工作,经历了七轮面试。大多数面试我的人都不想要我,但后来我和级别最高的那位面试官聊起了足球。我注意到他的废纸篓上有他最喜欢球队的标志,就提了一句。结果他驳回了所有同事的意见。
A great deal. I encountered many people who gave me a lot of support. I had to go through seven interviews to land my first job. Most of the people who interviewed me didn't want to hire me, but then I was able to talk about football with the highest-ranking interviewer. I had noticed that his wastebasket had the logo of his favorite team on it, and made a comment about that. He ended up overruling all of his colleagues.
这真的是运气吗?换个地方,你肯定也能干得很好。
Is that really luck? Surely you would have done well somewhere else.
在职场上,你既需要运气也需要能力。在大多数情况下,我可能都会做得不错,但也许不会那么好。
In the workplace you need both luck and skill. Probably I would have had a good career in most scenarios, but perhaps it wouldn't have been quite as good.
你把自己放在运气与能力坐标的哪个位置?
Where would you place yourself on the luck-skill continuum?
别问了——我不确定我是否想知道答案。
Don't ask – I'm not sure I want to know the answer.