谁知道呢?

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Memo to:

Memo to:

橡树资本客户与朋友们

Oaktree Clients and Friends

From:

From:

Howard Marks

Howard Marks

Re:

Re:

Who Knew?

Who Knew?

多年来,我一直在抨击那些声称自己知道未来走向的人。然而,在我 1997 年 9 月 3 日的上一份备忘录中,我或许确实做了一次正确的预测,内容如下:

什么可能导致市场下跌?投资者信心下降——这可能是当今最充裕的商品——很可能是关键因素,但原因难以预见……下一个意外可能来自地缘政治(石油禁运、朝鲜战争)、经济(货币紧缩、利润增长放缓)或市场内部(更高利率债券的竞争、发现欺诈),但最有可能的是没人预料到的事情——包括我们。

就在下个月,“亚洲金融危机”全面爆发,对全球股票和债券市场产生了深远影响。

这表明,预测未来其实很容易……如果你把预测限定在两点:(1) 某件重大事情最终必然发生,(2) 我们永远不知道那会是什么。

For years, I've railed against people who claim they know what the future holds. And yet, in my last memo on September 3, 1997, I may actually have made a correct prediction, as follows: What could cause a market decline? A drop in investor confidence -- perhaps the commodity that's most freely available today -- would likely be the key, but the reason is hard to foresee…. The next surprise might be geopolitical (oil embargo, war in Korea), economic (tight money, slowing profit growth) or internal to the market (competition from bonds at higher interest rates, discovery of a fraud), but it's most likely to be something that no one has anticipated -- including us. Just the next month, the "Asian meltdown" came into full bloom, with profound ramifications for stock and bond markets all around the world. What this shows is that it's easy to be right about the future . . . if you restrict your predictions to two: (1) something significant is bound to happen eventually, and (2) we never know what it'll be. *

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说到我们能知道什么,去年十二月我在一位客户办公室,提醒他说,我认为我们不会长久停留于新范式那种投资涅槃之中——通胀、利率、经济增长、利润扩张和股价上涨能一直保持恰到好处的配合。他说:“我本以为像你这样自称不预测未来的人,永远也不会说‘永远’。”

我的回答是:“也许是我在 1970 年代的惨痛经历所致,但确实有很多事情我会说‘永远不会’……从消极方面看:事情永远不会永远顺遂。投资者最热切的期望最终永远不会不落空。一些不愉快的意外永远不会不发生。”

这话听起来非常消极,仿佛我认为好事稀少,只有坏事注定发生。但如果你仔细想想,我希望你会得出结论,我并非我们凯文·克莱顿所说的那种“消极的奈德”。

Speaking of what we can know, I was in a client's office in December, cautioning that I thought we would never reside for long in the investment nirvana of the new paradigm where inflation, interest rates, economic growth, expanding profits and rising stock prices stay properly aligned. He said, "I'd think a self-professed non-forecaster like you would never say, ‘never’.” My response was, "Maybe it's a result of my sobering experience in the 1970s, but there are plenty of things I'll say "never" to ... on the negative side: Things will never go right forever. Investors' fondest hopes will never fail to be dashed eventually. Some unpleasant surprises will never fail to arise." This sounds terribly negative, as if I think good things are rare and only bad things are bound to happen. But if you think it over, I hope you'll conclude I'm not what our Kevin Clayton calls a "Negative Ned."

1998 年橡树资本管理公司(Oaktree Capital Management, L.P.)

1998 Oaktree Capital Management, L.P.

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我多年前读到过,每一轮牛市都要经历三个阶段:

第一阶段,少数有远见的人开始相信,情况有可能改善;

第二阶段,多数投资者逐渐认同,改善确实正在发生;

第三阶段,所有人都相信,一切会永远好下去。

如果你想在择时上有所成就,唯一可行的办法就是当个逆向者:在底部抓住一些机会,随着价格上涨而收敛乐观情绪,到了顶部时只持有相对较少的敞口。要在底部找到便宜货,你不必认定事情会永远变好;你只需记住,每一轮周期最终都会转头向上,而在看上去永远不会好转的时候,价格恰恰最低。但同样重要的是,别在顶部(以及过了顶部)还死抱着仓位不放,关键是不被“树能长到天上去”这种流行的错觉所俘虏。

我觉得要紧的是,尽管市场可能被低估或高估,而且可能持续数月甚至数年,变得更离谱,但最谨慎的做法是在没人乐观的时候乐观,这往往能带来丰厚回报。而在所有人都乐观的时候跟着乐观,可能很危险,代价也相当高昂。

I read decades ago that every bull market has three stages: The first, when a few far-sighted people begin to believe that some improvement is possible, the second, when most investors come to agree that improvement is actually underway, and the third, when everyone believes everything will get better forever. If you're going to succeed at all in timing cycles, the only possible way is to act as a contrarian: catch some opportunities at the bottom, let your optimism abate as prices rise, and hold relatively few exposed positions when the top is reached. To find bargains at the bottom, you don't have to think that things will get better forever; you just have to remember that every cycle will turn up eventually, and that prices are lowest when it looks like it won't. But it's just as important to avoid holding at (and past) the top, and the key is not to succumb to the popular delusion that "trees will grow to the sky." What I think is important is that, although markets can be underpriced or overpriced and yet go on for months or years to become even more so, it's most prudent to be optimistic when no one else is, and it can be highly profitable. But it can be dangerous to be optimistic when everyone else is, and very costly. *

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以上这些或许都很有趣,但核心问题当然是:“我们今天站在什么位置?”

毫无疑问,秘密已经公开:坏事确实可能发生——而且已经发生。我们看到亚洲的货币、经济乃至社会秩序正在自由落体。但让我震惊的是,美国主要股指几乎还停留在我 9 月份写信时的水平。我们的市场合理地受益于资金逃往优质资产,而且确实我们许多公司可能不会直接受到亚洲动荡的影响。但那些把股价推到接近历史高位的人,是过于乐观、过于悲观,还是恰到好处?

让我惊讶的是,尽管人们说“市场厌恶不确定性”,但在大量无人敢说完全理解的事情面前,市场却表现得相当不错。

1) 亚洲危机会有多严重?会蔓延多远?什么解决方案可行?它会对我们的经济和公司产生第二波、第三波的影响是什么?政府会倒台吗?合同会被撕毁吗?今天对美国股市乐观的人,有多少能回答这些关于亚洲的问题(而如果你回答不了后者,又怎么能做到前者)?

All of the above might be interesting, but of course the crucial question is "Where do we stand today?" Certainly, the secret's out: something bad can happen -- and has. We see Asian currencies, economies and perhaps social orders in free-fall. But what strikes me is the fact that the major U.S. equity indices are just about where they were when I wrote in September. Our market justifiably benefits from a flight to quality, and it is true that many of our companies may not be directly affected by the Asian turmoil. But are the people pricing stocks near all-time highs too optimistic, too pessimistic, or just right? What amazes me is that even though people say "the market abhors uncertainty," it has been doing rather well despite the large number of things that no one can pretend to fully understand. 1) How bad will the Asian crisis get, how far will it spread, what solution is possible, and what will be the second- and third-order ramifications on our economy and companies? Will governments topple? Will contracts be abrogated? How many people who are sanguine about U.S. equities today can answer these questions concerning Asia (and how can you be the former if you can't do the latter)?

1998 年,橡树资本管理有限合伙公司(Oaktree Capital Management, L.P.)

1998 Oaktree Capital Management, L.P.

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2) 关于亚洲发展的多数报道,都谈到了产能过剩、亚洲出口商因货币贬值导致以美元计价的价格降低而带来的竞争加剧,以及美国出现通货紧缩的可能性。连格林斯潘主席都觉得通货紧缩问题值得重视,上周六还专门提及。然而,谁又真正知道这些因素对全球经济和各公司意味着什么呢?简而言之,通货紧缩是好是坏?如果你答不上这些问题,又怎能心安理得?

3) 翻翻最近几个月的报纸,就能看到一连串的盈利不及预期、重组和裁员消息接连不断。我们的经济到底有多强?成本上升是否在挤压利润?盈利增长会放缓多少?

这些问题都表明,我们的投资环境中存在着负面因素。但负面因素始终都在——有时明显,有时潜伏。

价格接近高位、乐观情绪四处弥漫——这是一个危险的组合,尤其在感知风险上升的时候。彼得·伯恩斯坦在 1979 年前后写道:“绝佳的买入机会……从来不会出现在投资者最美好的希望天天成真的时候。”然而,如今许多投资者只经历过成功,似乎很少有人因近期的事态发展而受到深刻教训。这让我得以断定,眼下的市场并非买入良机;虽然暴跌未必迫在眉睫,但股市的高光时刻暂时已经过去了。

或者就像我们的客户迈克·赫尔曼在他担任投资委员会主席的考夫曼基金会年报中所写的那样:“眼下确实是再好不过了——这句话本身就该让人们警惕,而不是自满。如果情况不可能更好了,逻辑上就只能维持现状或变得更糟。”

我的结论是:最好的便宜货往往在事情看似不可能更好的时候出现,而在情况只能变得更糟的时候,便宜货却难觅踪影——尤其是在没几个人意识到这一点的时候。这正是橡树资本为何始终牢记自己所处的位置,只在恐惧情绪高涨时贪婪买入,并运用各类资产、策略和战术,为那些总在某个角落潜伏的负面因素做好准备。

2) Most accounts of the developments in Asia touch on overcapacity, on stiffened competition from Asian exporters whose prices are now lower in dollar terms because of devaluations, and on the possibility of deflation in the U.S. Even Chairman Greenspan thought enough of deflation to mention it last Saturday. And yet, who really knows what these things might mean for economies and companies around the world? In short, is deflation good or bad? How can you feel comfortable if you can't answer these questions? 3) A reading of the newspapers in the last few months discloses a steady drumbeat of earnings disappointments and revived restructurings and layoffs. How strong is our economy? Are cost increases putting pressure on profits? How much will earnings growth slow down? These are all questions that indicate that negatives are present in our investment environment. But they're always there -- sometimes obvious and sometimes not. Prices near highs and optimism in bloom -- that's a dangerous combination, especially with perceived risk on the rise. Peter Bernstein wrote around 1979 that "The great buying opportunities ... are never made by investors whose happiest hopes are daily being realized." And yet many of today's investors have only known success, and few appear seriously chastened by recent developments. This permits me to conclude that this is not a buying opportunity and, although no collapse need be imminent, the stock market's best days are behind it for a while. Or as our client, Mike Herman, wrote in the annual report of the Kaufman Foundation, the Investment Committee of which he chairs: ''It truly doesn't get much better than this -- a statement which in and of itself should inspire caution, not complacency. If things can't get much better, logic suggests they can only stay the same or get worse." My bottom line is that while the best bargains are found when it looks like things can't get better, bargains are hard to find when things can only get worse -- especially if few people seem to know it. That's why Oaktree always tries to keep in mind where we stand, to buy avidly only when fear is at a high level, and to utilize asset classes, strategies and tactics that prepare us for the negatives that are always lurking out there somewhere.

January 8, 1998

DJIA = 7,802

January 8, 1998 DJIA = 7,802

1998 年橡树资本管理有限合伙公司

1998 Oaktree Capital Management, L.P.

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